Comments on Liberty Reserve

**lemon_1800** · 20-04-09, 17:38

Originally Posted by kiatsiang

Now i really don't like to use LR, as i see they are always down recently. It is hard for me when i am planning my moves in HYIPs site, where i can't do invest and withdraw in critical times. Sometimes making me in lost when i cant withdraw from hyip during the down time. When LR site came back after several days, the Hyips site already turn to scam.

Yeah it's true if LR down means many HYIPs will become scams because many people won't invest and withdraw their money from HYIPs when LR is down and since they depend on ponzi they can't pay members and close their websites and whatever deposit they have will be their profits.

**eddielkk** · 21-04-09, 05:05

I also received an email from evolotto admin, who saying that their site is no more supporting LR, as currently LR is having lots of complains where many members is being stolen their large amount of funds there. He advices members not to safe our money with LR, as it is not safe now. This really make me worry that the stablebility of LR to goes down so sudden.

**mr.microsoft** · 22-04-09, 06:22

Originally Posted by eddielkk

I also received an email from evolotto admin, who saying that their site is no more supporting LR, as currently LR is having lots of complains where many members is being stolen their large amount of funds there. He advices members not to safe our money with LR, as it is not safe now. This really make me worry that the stablebility of LR to goes down so sudden.

Yes even I had received this email. I wonder what happened to the security of LR suddenly. They should be ready to face such situations.

**dhakabolton** · 22-04-09, 19:20

Originally Posted by eddielkk

I also received an email from evolotto admin, who saying that their site is no more supporting LR, as currently LR is having lots of complains where many members is being stolen their large amount of funds there. He advices members not to safe our money with LR, as it is not safe now. This really make me worry that the stablebility of LR to goes down so sudden.

Large amount of money stolen from users account? I never heard this. I think evolotto is from evowallet. Might be they want to create rumor against LR and want to inspire users to use evowallet. I am also unhappy with the current downtime of liberty reserve.
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**lemon_1800** · 22-04-09, 20:29

Guys, even SCI feature of LR is right now not working. I have stored all my earnings in LR because my PP is limited, so if anything wrong goes with LR, I will lose all my money. So I hope LR will come back normal.

**kiatsiang** · 23-04-09, 11:50

Originally Posted by lemon_1800

Guys, even SCI feature of LR is right now not working. I have stored all my earnings in LR because my PP is limited, so if anything wrong goes with LR, I will lose all my money. So I hope LR will come back normal.

Don't worry, I dont think LR will just gone like that. SCI feature is only use for those automatic payment security gateway system to those payment site, it won't affect our normal sending and receiving money. I think currently hacker would like to hack their SCI system to get the money. It will be back soon.

**lemon_1800** · 23-04-09, 13:25

Don't worry, I dont think LR will just gone like that. SCI feature is only use for those automatic payment security gateway system to those payment site, it won't affect our normal sending and receiving money. I think currently hacker would like to hack their SCI system to get the money. It will be back soon.

SCI feature of LR is again back normal so I'm now happy. It's an important feature because all merchants depending on this one, and if it doesn't work, merchants won't use LR. Anyway, now we don't need to worry because it's working fine.

**kiatsiang** · 24-04-09, 03:09

Originally Posted by lemon_1800

SCI feature of LR is again back normal so I'm now happy. It's an important feature because all merchants depending on this one, and if it doesn't work, merchants won't use LR. Anyway, now we don't need to worry because it's working fine.

Glad to know SCI featues is back, but we know the LR pass records, it always having unstability problems in SCI, many undetected loop hole in their features, so, always making the system down. Hope this time it will last longer.

**lemon_1800** · 24-04-09, 05:25

Glad to know SCI featues is back, but we know the LR pass records, it always having unstability problems in SCI, many undetected loop hole in their features, so, always making the system down. Hope this time it will last longer.

Yes it's true LR is not normal yet. It's up and down yesterday also, that is really not good and I have now decided not to keep any funds in LR. I will try to shift to at least in my friend's paypal as soon as I get any LR.

**lemon_1800** · 26-04-09, 18:21

Originally Posted by eddielkk

I also received an email from evolotto admin, who saying that their site is no more supporting LR, as currently LR is having lots of complains where many members is being stolen their large amount of funds there. He advices members not to safe our money with LR, as it is not safe now. This really make me worry that the stablebility of LR to goes down so sudden.

Today LR website updated about Eculotto in their blog.

Here it is :

Warning about ECULotto
Dear Friends,

A couple of our customers has brought to our attention the following e-mail that was recently dispatched by eculotto:

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Dear EcuLotto Player,

We gladly inform you that Libertyreserve is not anymore accepted on EcuLotto: We received an email today from Eric Paltz from Libertyreserve saying that they do not accept that we use other e-currencies than their, and that if so we have to stop using Libertyreserve.
Libertyreserve on EcuLotto, is about 30% of the games. 20% is Perfectmoney, 45% Ecumoney, and 5% Pecunix. We will for sure not accept suchj "dictatorship" of a MINOR player!

Moreover, Libertyreserve is currently under heavy investigation from various authorities after some of their Clients opened criminal cases for having been stolen very large amounts, and keeping any asset in LR is now becoming very hazardous.

That is why we decided to remove LR from our system, EcuLotto is a pure chance game, don't let the scam factor forge the statistic :-)

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This warning is to address the decision made by Liberty Reserve to disallow eculotto using Liberty Reserve. To protect our clients that had complained to us - that after accessing eculotto web site their e-mails and multiple currency accounts were compromised and in accordance with the previous notice issued about other payment systems indirectly integrating Liberty Reserve in payment solutions - we have decided to ask eculotto to stop using our payment system.

As everyone can see, that decision to stop working with eculotto was Liberty Reserves' and not eculotto. Furthermore, not once to any independent merchant we have stated that we have problems them accepting other currencies. Despite the information that is available via a couple, less than credible sources - Liberty Reserve has always welcomed and participated in working together with other credible currencies to everyones' satisfaction. We welcome any credible competition to collaborate with Liberty Reserve for the benefit of industry and the clients in need of safe, secure and private environment to conduct their financial affairs. After all, the future of financial freedom is behind the electronic currencies and on-line commerce.

To summarize:

to "gladly" announce not to work with a company that is 30% of your business - very bad business decision
30% of anything, when there is 20%, and 5%, is minor - is a lie
fact that eculotto was ask to leave because other currencies accepted - is a lie
any form of dictatorship expressed - is a lie
Liberty Reserve is under ANY investigation - is a lie
eculotto decided to remove Liberty Reserve - is a lie

While that whole announcement was made from pure and confirmed lies, the facts speak for themselves. Any business that resorts to this kind of tactics has to be watched carefully and not trusted, as they may be behind many other lies.
And it is very easy to see which e-currency is being pushed on the website, by the mysterious 45% of turn around of a currency that has a traffic rank of forgotten blog. It is quite possible and predictable that the same people have more fake announcements and lies planned for you, all you have to do is look past the conspiracy and address just the facts. And always remember, regarding Liberty Reserve - the only source of credible information remains only our own blog, where we are not afraid to disclose anything, including any hardships the company may be experiencing temporarily along with all the good news that are coming.

For those who have accessed the eculotto website in the recent past - please make sure your anti-virus is up to date and your computer is scanned, you have a firewall installed and we strongly advise you to change passwords for your e-mail accounts and any other websites that you may have accessed after visiting eculotto web site.

We, at Liberty Reserve, sincerely wish you the best and promise that you will get the same safe and secure service you have gotten accustomed to, as it has been already proven by many years of success operation.

**hyxfei** · 27-04-09, 10:22

Originally Posted by kiatsiang

Originally Posted by lemon_1800

SCI feature of LR is again back normal so I'm now happy. It's an important feature because all merchants depending on this one, and if it doesn't work, merchants won't use LR. Anyway, now we don't need to worry because it's working fine.

Glad to know SCI featues is back, but we know the LR pass records, it always having unstability problems in SCI, many undetected loop hole in their features, so, always making the system down. Hope this time it will last longer.

yes. SCI feature is back the second day of last down on LR. i was tring to buy some position then but they can't work. that's my first time to use SCI..

**lemon_1800** · 27-04-09, 16:10

I have not been able to access LR for the last three days with the direct link, but I can access it via the link below which I got from Google.

https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/customer/login2/

**kiatsiang** · 30-04-09, 03:26

Originally Posted by lemon_1800

I have not been able to access LR for the last three days with the direct link, but I can access it via the link below which I got from Google.

https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/customer/login2/

I can access it without problems this few day, how do you get this alternatif way to access LR? The path is "login2" , it seem to me that LR purposely doing another login for specific members?

**lemon_1800** · 30-04-09, 09:32

I can access it without problems this few day, how do you get this alternatif way to access LR? The path is "login2" , it seem to me that LR purposely doing another login for specific members?

No, they do block some areas for some maintenance reasons that's why some links work, and some doesn't work. Anyway, they solved out those problem just two days ago and I could access with the normal link itself. But again today LR has been down since morning. It's not working even with proxies. It seems now LR is down worldwide.

**eddielkk** · 30-04-09, 10:44

Originally Posted by lemon_1800

I can access it without problems this few day, how do you get this alternatif way to access LR? The path is "login2" , it seem to me that LR purposely doing another login for specific members?

No, they do block some areas for some maintenance reasons that's why some links work, and some doesn't work. Anyway, they solved out those problem just two days ago and I could access with the normal link itself. But again today LR has been down since morning. It's not working even with proxies. It seems now LR is down worldwide.

I can connect to LR, but the main page of LR site load extremely slow, it took me more than 20 minutes to load main pages, all the links there seem not working at all. I think again LR is being attacked by DDOS or another technical upgrades. Recently too many downtime of LR, why can' they solve it once and for all?

**wonderful1** · 30-04-09, 12:31

Originally Posted by eddielkk

Originally Posted by lemon_1800

I can access it without problems this few day, how do you get this alternatif way to access LR? The path is "login2" , it seem to me that LR purposely doing another login for specific members?

No, they do block some areas for some maintenance reasons that's why some links work, and some doesn't work. Anyway, they solved out those problem just two days ago and I could access with the normal link itself. But again today LR has been down since morning. It's not working even with proxies. It seems now LR is down worldwide.

I can connect to LR, but the main page of LR site load extremely slow, it took me more than 20 minutes to load main pages, all the links there seem not working at all. I think again LR is being attacked by DDOS or another technical upgrades. Recently too many downtime of LR, why can' they solve it once and for all?

after checking your post, i log in my LR account, 4 minutes passed, and i didn't open the main page. what's wrong with LR? forturnately, i withdraw all money from my LR account. recently, it is not stable.

**eddielkk** · 30-04-09, 12:49

It seem LR down is already getting normal. No one even surprise why they are down. LR is like down for 4 days, working fine for 3 days only. When someone plan to deposit or withdrawal from LR in hyip site, it is really having big disadvantage with their bad services.

**kiatsiang** · 30-04-09, 12:53

Yes the LR site is down in my place now. I am waiting for my WOIP withdrawal and then now the stupid LR again went down. I think those hyip site should support other processor as LR is getting more and more unstable recently. This is really bad.

**lemon_1800** · 30-04-09, 13:04

Because of this LR downtime, all people are affecting and many HYIPs take advantage of this and scam people. I just ordered an exchange of 39.50 Evo to LR with a new exchanger real-exchanger.com. Hopefully, they will sent me the 35.54 LR after LR comes back. Hope it's(real-exchanger) not another ecuex.info.

**kiatsiang** · 30-04-09, 21:26

Well, now LR site is back to normal, the laoding time is no more stuck like before. Although they come back, i still don't know when they will goes down again, this ais gettting normal for LR now.

Lemon, i hope you success getting exchange too, as i also want to exchange out my EVO too.