Liberty Reserve problems continuing.....!!

**eddielkk** · 16-06-09, 03:59

Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

Originally Posted by alec11

well, looks like LR site is not really good like paypal.
I never had a problem with paypal site before.

Well Paypal is well established in the market and know what kinds of threats it can face and as compared to that LR is new in the market so it will have to face such problems untill it learns and becomes stronger in protection over the days.

I agree that LR are facing challenge with their daily popularity. But they should always improves their technical services. They have been on net for quite some times and still having regular down time is really too unprofessional.

**lemon_1800** · 16-06-09, 04:40

I believe LR has strong protection, but it’s their rivals(other payout processors) or hackers who are finding out new way to make LR down every day. Basically these hackers are nothing but some governments who are against online gambling, online payout processors. They believe it’s illegal and bring harm in Internet world.

**eddielkk** · 16-06-09, 06:23

Originally Posted by lemon_1800

I believe LR has strong protection, but it’s their rivals(other payout processors) or hackers who are finding out new way to make LR down every day. Basically these hackers are nothing but some governments who are against online gambling, online payout processors. They believe it’s illegal and bring harm in Internet world.

Well, i don't think those hackers is from government of some country. If those country are against gambling site and LR, they can just block it through their ISP services. It is really no points for a government to become a hacker to attack some site isn't it?

**kiatsiang** · 16-06-09, 06:34

Originally Posted by lemon_1800

I believe LR has strong protection, but it’s their rivals(other payout processors) or hackers who are finding out new way to make LR down every day. Basically these hackers are nothing but some governments who are against online gambling, online payout processors. They believe it’s illegal and bring harm in Internet world.

LOL, this is funny, hacker is from government!? If government of a country is so free to hack other site just to make LR down. They can block it easily. There are too many gambling site, a government should hacked in this way, LR just provides payment processing services not a gambling site at all, why government need to hack them? If this is true, then many other payment processor which support casino gamlbing site like moneybrooker and neteller should be hacked by them too. LOL>

**poor** · 16-06-09, 10:07

Well yes almost all the problems come from hackers from other payment processors though Lr always hide those by giving another reason , this time too i see they gave no reason just said that they solved them , i think this problems will just continue with all the top pp as others want to take their place.

**eddielkk** · 16-06-09, 10:21

Originally Posted by poor

Well yes almost all the problems come from hackers from other payment processors though Lr always hide those by giving another reason , this time too i see they gave no reason just said that they solved them , i think this problems will just continue with all the top pp as others want to take their place.

Normally there won't be any payment processor dare to announced anything about being hacked by other hacker, cos this will for sure affect their reputation, and member like us will afraid to use their services anymore. LR may have same problems but understandable they wont announced it.

**alensot** · 16-06-09, 11:25

Originally Posted by eddielkk

Originally Posted by poor

Well yes almost all the problems come from hackers from other payment processors though Lr always hide those by giving another reason , this time too i see they gave no reason just said that they solved them , i think this problems will just continue with all the top pp as others want to take their place.

Normally there won't be any payment processor dare to announced anything about being hacked by other hacker, cos this will for sure affect their reputation, and member like us will afraid to use their services anymore. LR may have same problems but understandable they wont announced it.

I don't think it is hackers problem as a payment processor as big as LR, there might be solid security for hacking as you can also see it in Paypal and how it is more secured from hackers...

**kiatsiang** · 16-06-09, 13:23

Originally Posted by alensot

I don't think it is hackers problem as a payment processor as big as LR, there might be solid security for hacking as you can also see it in Paypal and how it is more secured from hackers...

Well, it is really hard to explain why LR is always down, many possibilites and you said LR site is big as paypal and shouldn't has problems? but they always having down time, why? Paypal is always online and never heard any downtime from them at all, you can't compare both of them.

**alensot** · 16-06-09, 17:12

Originally Posted by kiatsiang

Originally Posted by alensot

I don't think it is hackers problem as a payment processor as big as LR, there might be solid security for hacking as you can also see it in Paypal and how it is more secured from hackers...

Well, it is really hard to explain why LR is always down, many possibilites and you said LR site is big as paypal and shouldn't has problems? but they always having down time, why? Paypal is always online and never heard any downtime from them at all, you can't compare both of them.

Yes, i am also referring to the same point and Paypal being very reputed doesn't have problems like this one as they are not going offline every now and then as LR does here

**mr.microsoft** · 16-06-09, 17:31

Originally Posted by kiatsiang

Originally Posted by alensot

I don't think it is hackers problem as a payment processor as big as LR, there might be solid security for hacking as you can also see it in Paypal and how it is more secured from hackers...

Well, it is really hard to explain why LR is always down, many possibilites and you said LR site is big as paypal and shouldn't has problems? but they always having down time, why? Paypal is always online and never heard any downtime from them at all, you can't compare both of them.

Paypal is never down because they must have faced these problems before and hence they have remedies against it. I think LR should use multiple servers so that even if one server fails the backup server continues to function.

**alensot** · 16-06-09, 20:14

Yes, LR should have multiple servers and being such a big processor i don't understand why they cannot be like Paypal..!

**mr.microsoft** · 16-06-09, 20:51

Originally Posted by alensot

Yes, LR should have multiple servers and being such a big processor i don't understand why they cannot be like Paypal..!

Well they are a new company so it will take time for them to reach to the standards of Paypal.

**eddielkk** · 16-06-09, 21:13

Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

Originally Posted by kiatsiang

Originally Posted by alensot

I don't think it is hackers problem as a payment processor as big as LR, there might be solid security for hacking as you can also see it in Paypal and how it is more secured from hackers...

Well, it is really hard to explain why LR is always down, many possibilites and you said LR site is big as paypal and shouldn't has problems? but they always having down time, why? Paypal is always online and never heard any downtime from them at all, you can't compare both of them.

Paypal is never down because they must have faced these problems before and hence they have remedies against it. I think LR should use multiple servers so that even if one server fails the backup server continues to function.

How do you know that LR don't have multiple servers while they are suppoting so many country member? and also are you sue paypal is always having downtime problems before, as i have been members of paypal for many years, and i did not see those type weird downtime happend before.

**mr.microsoft** · 18-06-09, 07:45

Originally Posted by eddielkk

Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

Originally Posted by kiatsiang

Originally Posted by alensot

I don't think it is hackers problem as a payment processor as big as LR, there might be solid security for hacking as you can also see it in Paypal and how it is more secured from hackers...

Well, it is really hard to explain why LR is always down, many possibilites and you said LR site is big as paypal and shouldn't has problems? but they always having down time, why? Paypal is always online and never heard any downtime from them at all, you can't compare both of them.

Paypal is never down because they must have faced these problems before and hence they have remedies against it. I think LR should use multiple servers so that even if one server fails the backup server continues to function.

How do you know that LR don't have multiple servers while they are suppoting so many country member? and also are you sue paypal is always having downtime problems before, as i have been members of paypal for many years, and i did not see those type weird downtime happend before.

Even I am using Paypal for years now and I have witnessed Paypal being down before. Well and it's simple logic. If LR had multiple servers then downtime won't have occoured. When a site is hosted on multiple servers, when one server is down the other one continues to function and provide all services of the site as it is. Since LR has a downtime frequently it's obvious that they are not hosted on a multiple server.

**alensot** · 18-06-09, 09:01

Yes, i agree with you and having multiple servers will always help LR and after growing this big, the have to go for that and also give importance for more security like Paypal

**eddielkk** · 18-06-09, 10:06

Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

Even I am using Paypal for years now and I have witnessed Paypal being down before. Well and it's simple logic. If LR had multiple servers then downtime won't have occoured. When a site is hosted on multiple servers, when one server is down the other one continues to function and provide all services of the site as it is. Since LR has a downtime frequently it's obvious that they are not hosted on a multiple server.

What you are saying is only multiple hosting site for the domain of LR, not a physical multiple server and server mirroring on the site itself. Even with the multiple server system, when the admin intended to down a site, there is no way for users to connect. So, we can't judge LR is having a server mirroring by measuring their downtieme.

**alensot** · 18-06-09, 11:04

LR is having problems since 2-months and it is really long time to continue with problems for any payment processors and i think there is some glitch there and they are not acting fast also i guess

**mr.microsoft** · 19-06-09, 07:10

Originally Posted by eddielkk

Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

Even I am using Paypal for years now and I have witnessed Paypal being down before. Well and it's simple logic. If LR had multiple servers then downtime won't have occoured. When a site is hosted on multiple servers, when one server is down the other one continues to function and provide all services of the site as it is. Since LR has a downtime frequently it's obvious that they are not hosted on a multiple server.

What you are saying is only multiple hosting site for the domain of LR, not a physical multiple server and server mirroring on the site itself. Even with the multiple server system, when the admin intended to down a site, there is no way for users to connect. So, we can't judge LR is having a server mirroring by measuring their downtieme.

A site is hosted on different physical servers too. And why would the admin want to keep the site down when all the complaining about LR being down is going on ?

**poor** · 22-06-09, 17:19

Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

Originally Posted by alensot

Yes, LR should have multiple servers and being such a big processor i don't understand why they cannot be like Paypal..!

Well they are a new company so it will take time for them to reach to the standards of Paypal.

well paypal can't really be compared to Lr cos paypal has to safeguard all the credit card info of the members which is not the case with Lr , so that is why they don't really try to plug loopholes before the problem happens.