yeah, satyakam and manmade should suppose give us update. that is why i had doubt over this site. they don't even bother to give payment proof. and besides i don't think that we can earn well from the paid messages here. and also i have question about requesting payout. even if we reached payout here. we have to upgrade first before we can request payout and also there is big fees in requesting payout which will cut off our earnings too. so i don't think it is really worth it to upgrade here. i have just wasted my $10 upgrade which already expired

i doubt the honesty of these two cm trainors, satyakam and manmade. we don't see them any more online.