actually the proper way is to donate first. but sometimes the admin pays us immediately after requesting payout though we have not donated the points yet and will request to donate the points by pm after he has paid us. so it does not matter which comes first. but for faster payment i guess you have to donate points first. but i prefer to be paid first. so to make suer that the admin has funds before i donate. or better yet pm the admin first if he has funds to pay. someteims if runs out of fund by paypal to paypal payments and i don't like the credit cards paymetns to my paypal.
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