What about AlertPay , did you tried it ?

**elliotthn05** · 09-02-09, 01:21

i dont like AP now,i have been scamed by others with AP.
the person sent me money and so we did exchange,but he could ask for reserve the AP.

**Drowned** · 09-02-09, 04:14

Originally Posted by elliotthn05

i dont like AP now,i have been scamed by others with AP.
the person sent me money and so we did exchange,but he could ask for reserve the AP.

How can that person scammed you by making charge back? I thought it is harder for us to get refunds in AlertPay, because we have to give proof(s). I wonder what the scammer told AlertPay so that s/he successfully got the refunds.

**smartzkool** · 09-02-09, 04:30

Originally Posted by Drowned

How can that person scammed you by making charge back? I thought it is harder for us to get refunds in AlertPay, because we have to give proof(s). I wonder what the scammer told AlertPay so that s/he successfully got the refunds.

Well I too heard of some refund system in alert pay, is it true? Is it like that of paypal?

**moustafa** · 09-02-09, 10:28

smart, its worst too much than paypal .
because it encourages scammers .. they don't block their accounts but block the legit accounts with no reasons .

**Drowned** · 09-02-09, 11:05

Originally Posted by smartzkool

Well I too heard of some refund system in alert pay, is it true? Is it like that of paypal?

Yes, there is a refund system in AlertPay, I have filed 2 disputes and I got full refund in the first case, but I do not know about the second one, I am not too optimistic about it, because the admin's account is already empty. But I do not know about the refund in PayPal, because I have never filed any dispute there, because I do not feel the need to do that. But I heard that PayPal processes the refund fast, while in AlertPay, I received the refunds within 2 months.

**smartzkool** · 09-02-09, 13:48

Originally Posted by Drowned

Originally Posted by smartzkool

Well I too heard of some refund system in alert pay, is it true? Is it like that of paypal?

Yes, there is a refund system in AlertPay, I have filed 2 disputes and I got full refund in the first case, but I do not know about the second one, I am not too optimistic about it, because the admin's account is already empty. But I do not know about the refund in PayPal, because I have never filed any dispute there, because I do not feel the need to do that. But I heard that PayPal processes the refund fast, while in AlertPay, I received the refunds within 2 months.

Well I have used that dispute option in paypal once and got back my money within a day.

**eddielkk** · 11-02-09, 18:30

Originally Posted by elliotthn05

i dont like AP now,i have been scamed by others with AP.
the person sent me money and so we did exchange,but he could ask for reserve the AP.

I think the safer way of doing exchange with AP is waiting about 48 hours first before sending the money to them, to prevent those scammer from doing charge back. Another way is quickly transfer out the money from one AP account to another AP account to prevent refund too.

**Drowned** · 11-02-09, 19:31

Originally Posted by eddielkk

I think the safer way of doing exchange with AP is waiting about 48 hours first before sending the money to them, to prevent those scammer from doing charge back. Another way is quickly transfer out the money from one AP account to another AP account to prevent refund too.

I read a lot about this, that one of the way to be safe when exchanging e-currencies is by holding the funds for 48 hours. Is it really safe? Will it really make any change? As far as I know, the charge back policy is good for 30 days after transaction, so will it matter if we hold the fund?

**eddielkk** · 12-02-09, 04:21

Originally Posted by Drowned

Originally Posted by eddielkk

I think the safer way of doing exchange with AP is waiting about 48 hours first before sending the money to them, to prevent those scammer from doing charge back. Another way is quickly transfer out the money from one AP account to another AP account to prevent refund too.

I read a lot about this, that one of the way to be safe when exchanging e-currencies is by holding the funds for 48 hours. Is it really safe? Will it really make any change? As far as I know, the charge back policy is good for 30 days after transaction, so will it matter if we hold the fund?

Normally, the chargeback may not be considered after exceeding 48 hours, as it is like acceptable by both party. I do not know much about AP policy that having 30 days charge back after transaction. So, the best way is still quickly transfer out to other AP account. But i having problems to send out money without getting verified with my AP account.

**smartzkool** · 12-02-09, 05:28

Originally Posted by eddielkk

I think the safer way of doing exchange with AP is waiting about 48 hours first before sending the money to them, to prevent those scammer from doing charge back. Another way is quickly transfer out the money from one AP account to another AP account to prevent refund too.

I don't think that we are allowed to have multiple accounts in alertpay. What if they find it out?

**eddielkk** · 12-02-09, 06:45

Originally Posted by smartzkool

Originally Posted by eddielkk

I think the safer way of doing exchange with AP is waiting about 48 hours first before sending the money to them, to prevent those scammer from doing charge back. Another way is quickly transfer out the money from one AP account to another AP account to prevent refund too.

I don't think that we are allowed to have multiple accounts in alertpay. What if they find it out?

Of course i think no payment processor accepts multiple accounts. I have normally send my AP account balance to my brother AP account. Where his account is never use for any GPT programs. As my account is fully used to register all those GPT programs. It is just for a method of safety and to prevent scam and hacked.

**smartzkool** · 12-02-09, 09:31

Originally Posted by eddielkk

Of course i think no payment processor accepts multiple accounts. I have normally send my AP account balance to my brother AP account. Where his account is never use for any GPT programs. As my account is fully used to register all those GPT programs. It is just for a method of safety and to prevent scam and hacked.

I hope you both are not using same IP address(s) as they will think that you are using multiple accounts. just a piece of advice.

**moustafa** · 25-02-09, 00:45

Originally Posted by eddielkk

Originally Posted by smartzkool

Originally Posted by eddielkk

I think the safer way of doing exchange with AP is waiting about 48 hours first before sending the money to them, to prevent those scammer from doing charge back. Another way is quickly transfer out the money from one AP account to another AP account to prevent refund too.

I don't think that we are allowed to have multiple accounts in alertpay. What if they find it out?

Of course i think no payment processor accepts multiple accounts. I have normally send my AP account balance to my brother AP account. Where his account is never use for any GPT programs. As my account is fully used to register all those GPT programs. It is just for a method of safety and to prevent scam and hacked.

you are mistaken.
there are some payment processors that accept to have multiple accounts like LR.

**Revolutionary Matrix** · 27-02-09, 05:36

Originally Posted by smartzkool

Originally Posted by eddielkk

Of course i think no payment processor accepts multiple accounts. I have normally send my AP account balance to my brother AP account. Where his account is never use for any GPT programs. As my account is fully used to register all those GPT programs. It is just for a method of safety and to prevent scam and hacked.

I hope you both are not using same IP address(s) as they will think that you are using multiple accounts. just a piece of advice.

There are households where multiple family members share the same computer and also have separate accounts for Alertpay and Paypal. I don't think they would get suspicious unless it is over a certain amount of accounts, or if there are weird transactions going on.

**moustafa** · 27-02-09, 10:26

Originally Posted by Revolutionary Matrix

Originally Posted by smartzkool

Originally Posted by eddielkk

Of course i think no payment processor accepts multiple accounts. I have normally send my AP account balance to my brother AP account. Where his account is never use for any GPT programs. As my account is fully used to register all those GPT programs. It is just for a method of safety and to prevent scam and hacked.

I hope you both are not using same IP address(s) as they will think that you are using multiple accounts. just a piece of advice.

There are households where multiple family members share the same computer and also have separate accounts for Alertpay and Paypal. I don't think they would get suspicious unless it is over a certain amount of accounts, or if there are weird transactions going on.

No, this is not correct.
because if one of those accounts is limited,, then other accounts will get limited as well.

**traveler** · 03-05-09, 16:53

I also have alertpay account but still unverified i wonder how can i exchange it or transfer to my paypal account..

**mr.microsoft** · 03-05-09, 19:32

Originally Posted by Drowned

Originally Posted by smartzkool

Well I too heard of some refund system in alert pay, is it true? Is it like that of paypal?

Yes, there is a refund system in AlertPay, I have filed 2 disputes and I got full refund in the first case, but I do not know about the second one, I am not too optimistic about it, because the admin's account is already empty. But I do not know about the refund in PayPal, because I have never filed any dispute there, because I do not feel the need to do that. But I heard that PayPal processes the refund fast, while in AlertPay, I received the refunds within 2 months.

Well 2 months is a pretty long time. In paypal it gives both the traders a few days time and anyone does not respond the case is won by the other side.

**wanted123** · 03-05-09, 20:24

microsoft i have reported a transcation as i was scammed by 16 $ and provided the proof and i was having as long problem and it didnt respond me and i think alertpay is the easiest processor for scammer as scammer can easily do a charge back

**hyxfei** · 04-05-09, 04:25

Originally Posted by wanted123

microsoft i have reported a transcation as i was scammed by 16 $ and provided the proof and i was having as long problem and it didnt respond me and i think alertpay is the easiest processor for scammer as scammer can easily do a charge back

well. so have you received your chargeback money already?
paypal also have the same charge back feature so some scammer use this feature to scam others also. it's really that alertpay should be more carful when dealing with those chargeback.