Comments on Liberty Reserve

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Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

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Originally Posted by kiatsiang

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Originally Posted by hyxfei

i guess they only asked us once and let us keep that in mind and change the password and secrect question frequently.
or i can't figure any reason why they do not ask us still. :)

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May be the first time when they forced members to changes their secret question and password has make many members complains about them, as such they didn't do it the second time already.

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Well I think that due to the recent hacks and attacks on LR some accounts might have been compromised and hence they might have asked those accounts to get the password changed. I wonder if they will do it again.

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well they haven't done it till now , so i don't think they will do it this time , the problem was only with server crash so there is less possibility to accounts being compromised.

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Originally Posted by poor

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Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

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Originally Posted by kiatsiang

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Originally Posted by hyxfei

i guess they only asked us once and let us keep that in mind and change the password and secrect question frequently.
or i can't figure any reason why they do not ask us still. :)

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May be the first time when they forced members to changes their secret question and password has make many members complains about them, as such they didn't do it the second time already.

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Well I think that due to the recent hacks and attacks on LR some accounts might have been compromised and hence they might have asked those accounts to get the password changed. I wonder if they will do it again.

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well they haven't done it till now , so i don't think they will do it this time , the problem was only with server crash so there is less possibility to accounts being compromised.

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Well the servers can be crashed by hackers too. Extra load or requests on the server causes it to crash.

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Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

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Originally Posted by poor

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Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

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Originally Posted by kiatsiang

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Originally Posted by hyxfei

i guess they only asked us once and let us keep that in mind and change the password and secrect question frequently.
or i can't figure any reason why they do not ask us still. :)

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May be the first time when they forced members to changes their secret question and password has make many members complains about them, as such they didn't do it the second time already.

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Well I think that due to the recent hacks and attacks on LR some accounts might have been compromised and hence they might have asked those accounts to get the password changed. I wonder if they will do it again.

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well they haven't done it till now , so i don't think they will do it this time , the problem was only with server crash so there is less possibility to accounts being compromised.

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Well the servers can be crashed by hackers too. Extra load or requests on the server causes it to crash.

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The servers crash is due to the DDOS attack that launched by either commonor or also hackers. Some people try to make a site down with their DDOS attack knowledge, just for fun and not necessary to hack the account.

Well there are other ways other than hackers for server to get crashed , sometimes internal error occur , so it not necessarily be ddos though it is one possibility.

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Originally Posted by poor

Well there are other ways other than hackers for server to get crashed , sometimes internal error occur , so it not necessarily be ddos though it is one possibility.

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Well once the server is set up then there are very little chances of the server getting an internal error. Since LR was working fine before chances of DDoS attacks have a greater probability.

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Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

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Originally Posted by poor

Well there are other ways other than hackers for server to get crashed , sometimes internal error occur , so it not necessarily be ddos though it is one possibility.

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Well once the server is set up then there are very little chances of the server getting an internal error. Since LR was working fine before chances of DDoS attacks have a greater probability.

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I think what the internal errors that poor mentioned here, is the server hardware or network errors, like those hard disk failure, or network swithches damaged that will also causing a server to be inaccessible.

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Originally Posted by kiatsiang

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Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

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Originally Posted by poor

Well there are other ways other than hackers for server to get crashed , sometimes internal error occur , so it not necessarily be ddos though it is one possibility.

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Well once the server is set up then there are very little chances of the server getting an internal error. Since LR was working fine before chances of DDoS attacks have a greater probability.

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I think what the internal errors that poor mentioned here, is the server hardware or network errors, like those hard disk failure, or network swithches damaged that will also causing a server to be inaccessible.

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Yes that can be a reason but then those would not hack the accounts which has been a recent issue of Liberty Reserve. And in the event of such failures the site would be down for quite some time and not be coming up and going down frequently.

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Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

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Originally Posted by kiatsiang

I think what the internal errors that poor mentioned here, is the server hardware or network errors, like those hard disk failure, or network swithches damaged that will also causing a server to be inaccessible.

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Yes that can be a reason but then those would not hack the accounts which has been a recent issue of Liberty Reserve. And in the event of such failures the site would be down for quite some time and not be coming up and going down frequently.

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Did LR announced that their system being hacked? i didn't notices there are such info on their site and blog. Anyway, for the LR site frequently down, there are many reason, and i think the main reason would be they doing upgrade test and under DDOS attack. By the way, hardware failure won't take long time to recover too.

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Originally Posted by eddielkk

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Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

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Originally Posted by kiatsiang

I think what the internal errors that poor mentioned here, is the server hardware or network errors, like those hard disk failure, or network swithches damaged that will also causing a server to be inaccessible.

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Yes that can be a reason but then those would not hack the accounts which has been a recent issue of Liberty Reserve. And in the event of such failures the site would be down for quite some time and not be coming up and going down frequently.

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Did LR announced that their system being hacked? i didn't notices there are such info on their site and blog. Anyway, for the LR site frequently down, there are many reason, and i think the main reason would be they doing upgrade test and under DDOS attack. By the way, hardware failure won't take long time to recover too.

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Well usually payment processors do not reveal or disclose any information about they getting hacked. It's a blackspot for their reputation.

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Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

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Originally Posted by eddielkk

Did LR announced that their system being hacked? i didn't notices there are such info on their site and blog. Anyway, for the LR site frequently down, there are many reason, and i think the main reason would be they doing upgrade test and under DDOS attack. By the way, hardware failure won't take long time to recover too.

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Well usually payment processors do not reveal or disclose any information about they getting hacked. It's a blackspot for their reputation.

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Ya, i agree if they announced it, then their reputation will surely hurt. Since there is no way to know whether they really being hacked or not, then i think those rumours must be started by somebody, when one person say this out, then everybody will follow to spread the news.

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Originally Posted by eddielkk

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Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

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Originally Posted by eddielkk

Did LR announced that their system being hacked? i didn't notices there are such info on their site and blog. Anyway, for the LR site frequently down, there are many reason, and i think the main reason would be they doing upgrade test and under DDOS attack. By the way, hardware failure won't take long time to recover too.

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Well usually payment processors do not reveal or disclose any information about they getting hacked. It's a blackspot for their reputation.

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Ya, i agree if they announced it, then their reputation will surely hurt. Since there is no way to know whether they really being hacked or not, then i think those rumours must be started by somebody, when one person say this out, then everybody will follow to spread the news.

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Yes that's true but sometimes the information gets leaked from an inside source and then the news spreads like fire.

yes. we always do not why we can't access our account or the whole site is down exactly. that's their security also maybe.

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Originally Posted by hyxfei

yes. we always do not why we can't access our account or the whole site is down exactly. that's their security also maybe.

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Well anyways I hope the site is running well now and won't have problems in the near future.

hehe. i found LR's currently down time is shorter than the longest one before already. so they have gathered lots experience and LR will have less and less problem later.

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Originally Posted by mr.microsoft

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Originally Posted by hyxfei

yes. we always do not why we can't access our account or the whole site is down exactly. that's their security also maybe.

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Well anyways I hope the site is running well now and won't have problems in the near future.

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This is everyone hoping for, who want to save their money in a place that always uncertainty and don't know when it will down and back? LR should seriously look into this issues.

It's up and down as usual, Now, I just hope LR support would read our complainsts about it's frequent downtime, so they may improve their services, otherwise they will lose their popularity. In every forums, I can see complainsts against them. :lol:

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Originally Posted by rortiz86

It's up and down as usual, Now, I just hope LR support would read our complainsts about it's frequent downtime, so they may improve their services, otherwise they will lose their popularity. In every forums, I can see complainsts against them. :lol:

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The strange things is even there are many people complains but still they are still a lot of users rely on LR with most of their funds. Even LR continues their up and down time, people still like to use it.. funny..

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Originally Posted by kiatsiang

The strange things is even there are many people complains but still they are still a lot of users rely on LR with most of their funds. Even LR continues their up and down time, people still like to use it.. funny..

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I also wonder why people are so attracted to LR even with so many problem they have. They just made a place in people's mind i guess. I don't Like LR at all but have no choice but to use it.

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Originally Posted by kiatsiang

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Originally Posted by rortiz86

It's up and down as usual, Now, I just hope LR support would read our complainsts about it's frequent downtime, so they may improve their services, otherwise they will lose their popularity. In every forums, I can see complainsts against them. :lol:

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The strange things is even there are many people complains but still they are still a lot of users rely on LR with most of their funds. Even LR continues their up and down time, people still like to use it.. funny..

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thats right.
do you see that there is another online ecurrency better than LR ?

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Originally Posted by moustafa

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Originally Posted by kiatsiang

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Originally Posted by rortiz86

It's up and down as usual, Now, I just hope LR support would read our complainsts about it's frequent downtime, so they may improve their services, otherwise they will lose their popularity. In every forums, I can see complainsts against them. :lol:

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The strange things is even there are many people complains but still they are still a lot of users rely on LR with most of their funds. Even LR continues their up and down time, people still like to use it.. funny..

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thats right.
do you see that there is another online ecurrency better than LR ?

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perfectmoney is widely used in hyip sites nowadays, so if lr goes down by any chance pm should be on top.

yes. i also think perfectmoney can take a good share on the future hyip business . no matter LR down or not.

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Originally Posted by wasi90lk

perfectmoney is widely used in hyip sites nowadays, so if lr goes down by any chance pm should be on top.

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If i am not mistaken, Perfectmoney also not support charge back policy, it is eventually same like LR, when our funds getting scammed. still Ap will be the best in hyip sites, the chargeback work perfect.

safe, low fee, very good, better than others