What about AlertPay , did you tried it ?

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09-02-09, 01:21
elliotthn05

i dont like AP now,i have been scamed by others with AP.
the person sent me money and so we did exchange,but he could ask for reserve the AP.
09-02-09, 04:14
Drowned

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Originally Posted by elliotthn05

i dont like AP now,i have been scamed by others with AP.
the person sent me money and so we did exchange,but he could ask for reserve the AP.

How can that person scammed you by making charge back? I thought it is harder for us to get refunds in AlertPay, because we have to give proof(s). I wonder what the scammer told AlertPay so that s/he successfully got the refunds.
09-02-09, 04:30
smartzkool

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Originally Posted by Drowned

How can that person scammed you by making charge back? I thought it is harder for us to get refunds in AlertPay, because we have to give proof(s). I wonder what the scammer told AlertPay so that s/he successfully got the refunds.

Well I too heard of some refund system in alert pay, is it true? Is it like that of paypal?
09-02-09, 10:28
moustafa

smart, its worst too much than paypal .
because it encourages scammers .. they don't block their accounts but block the legit accounts with no reasons .
09-02-09, 11:05
Drowned

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Originally Posted by smartzkool

Well I too heard of some refund system in alert pay, is it true? Is it like that of paypal?

Yes, there is a refund system in AlertPay, I have filed 2 disputes and I got full refund in the first case, but I do not know about the second one, I am not too optimistic about it, because the admin's account is already empty. But I do not know about the refund in PayPal, because I have never filed any dispute there, because I do not feel the need to do that. But I heard that PayPal processes the refund fast, while in AlertPay, I received the refunds within 2 months.
09-02-09, 13:48
smartzkool

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Originally Posted by Drowned

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Originally Posted by smartzkool

Well I too heard of some refund system in alert pay, is it true? Is it like that of paypal?

Yes, there is a refund system in AlertPay, I have filed 2 disputes and I got full refund in the first case, but I do not know about the second one, I am not too optimistic about it, because the admin's account is already empty. But I do not know about the refund in PayPal, because I have never filed any dispute there, because I do not feel the need to do that. But I heard that PayPal processes the refund fast, while in AlertPay, I received the refunds within 2 months.

Well I have used that dispute option in paypal once and got back my money within a day. :)
11-02-09, 18:30
eddielkk

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Originally Posted by elliotthn05

i dont like AP now,i have been scamed by others with AP.
the person sent me money and so we did exchange,but he could ask for reserve the AP.

I think the safer way of doing exchange with AP is waiting about 48 hours first before sending the money to them, to prevent those scammer from doing charge back. Another way is quickly transfer out the money from one AP account to another AP account to prevent refund too.
11-02-09, 19:31
Drowned

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Originally Posted by eddielkk

I think the safer way of doing exchange with AP is waiting about 48 hours first before sending the money to them, to prevent those scammer from doing charge back. Another way is quickly transfer out the money from one AP account to another AP account to prevent refund too.

I read a lot about this, that one of the way to be safe when exchanging e-currencies is by holding the funds for 48 hours. Is it really safe? Will it really make any change? As far as I know, the charge back policy is good for 30 days after transaction, so will it matter if we hold the fund?
12-02-09, 04:21
eddielkk

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Originally Posted by Drowned

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Originally Posted by eddielkk

I think the safer way of doing exchange with AP is waiting about 48 hours first before sending the money to them, to prevent those scammer from doing charge back. Another way is quickly transfer out the money from one AP account to another AP account to prevent refund too.

I read a lot about this, that one of the way to be safe when exchanging e-currencies is by holding the funds for 48 hours. Is it really safe? Will it really make any change? As far as I know, the charge back policy is good for 30 days after transaction, so will it matter if we hold the fund?

Normally, the chargeback may not be considered after exceeding 48 hours, as it is like acceptable by both party. I do not know much about AP policy that having 30 days charge back after transaction. So, the best way is still quickly transfer out to other AP account. But i having problems to send out money without getting verified with my AP account.
12-02-09, 05:28
smartzkool

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Originally Posted by eddielkk

I think the safer way of doing exchange with AP is waiting about 48 hours first before sending the money to them, to prevent those scammer from doing charge back. Another way is quickly transfer out the money from one AP account to another AP account to prevent refund too.

I don't think that we are allowed to have multiple accounts in alertpay. What if they find it out?
12-02-09, 06:45
eddielkk

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Originally Posted by smartzkool

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Originally Posted by eddielkk

I think the safer way of doing exchange with AP is waiting about 48 hours first before sending the money to them, to prevent those scammer from doing charge back. Another way is quickly transfer out the money from one AP account to another AP account to prevent refund too.

I don't think that we are allowed to have multiple accounts in alertpay. What if they find it out?

Of course i think no payment processor accepts multiple accounts. I have normally send my AP account balance to my brother AP account. Where his account is never use for any GPT programs. As my account is fully used to register all those GPT programs. It is just for a method of safety and to prevent scam and hacked.
12-02-09, 09:31
smartzkool

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Originally Posted by eddielkk

Of course i think no payment processor accepts multiple accounts. I have normally send my AP account balance to my brother AP account. Where his account is never use for any GPT programs. As my account is fully used to register all those GPT programs. It is just for a method of safety and to prevent scam and hacked.

I hope you both are not using same IP address(s) as they will think that you are using multiple accounts. just a piece of advice.
25-02-09, 00:45
moustafa

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Originally Posted by eddielkk

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Originally Posted by smartzkool

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Originally Posted by eddielkk

I think the safer way of doing exchange with AP is waiting about 48 hours first before sending the money to them, to prevent those scammer from doing charge back. Another way is quickly transfer out the money from one AP account to another AP account to prevent refund too.

I don't think that we are allowed to have multiple accounts in alertpay. What if they find it out?

Of course i think no payment processor accepts multiple accounts. I have normally send my AP account balance to my brother AP account. Where his account is never use for any GPT programs. As my account is fully used to register all those GPT programs. It is just for a method of safety and to prevent scam and hacked.

you are mistaken.
there are some payment processors that accept to have multiple accounts like LR.
27-02-09, 05:36
Revolutionary Matrix

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Originally Posted by smartzkool

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Originally Posted by eddielkk

Of course i think no payment processor accepts multiple accounts. I have normally send my AP account balance to my brother AP account. Where his account is never use for any GPT programs. As my account is fully used to register all those GPT programs. It is just for a method of safety and to prevent scam and hacked.

I hope you both are not using same IP address(s) as they will think that you are using multiple accounts. just a piece of advice.

There are households where multiple family members share the same computer and also have separate accounts for Alertpay and Paypal. I don't think they would get suspicious unless it is over a certain amount of accounts, or if there are weird transactions going on.
27-02-09, 10:26
moustafa

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Originally Posted by Revolutionary Matrix

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Originally Posted by smartzkool

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Originally Posted by eddielkk

Of course i think no payment processor accepts multiple accounts. I have normally send my AP account balance to my brother AP account. Where his account is never use for any GPT programs. As my account is fully used to register all those GPT programs. It is just for a method of safety and to prevent scam and hacked.

I hope you both are not using same IP address(s) as they will think that you are using multiple accounts. just a piece of advice.

There are households where multiple family members share the same computer and also have separate accounts for Alertpay and Paypal. I don't think they would get suspicious unless it is over a certain amount of accounts, or if there are weird transactions going on.

No, this is not correct.
because if one of those accounts is limited,, then other accounts will get limited as well.
03-05-09, 16:53
traveler

I also have alertpay account but still unverified i wonder how can i exchange it or transfer to my paypal account..
03-05-09, 19:32
mr.microsoft

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Originally Posted by Drowned

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Originally Posted by smartzkool

Well I too heard of some refund system in alert pay, is it true? Is it like that of paypal?

Yes, there is a refund system in AlertPay, I have filed 2 disputes and I got full refund in the first case, but I do not know about the second one, I am not too optimistic about it, because the admin's account is already empty. But I do not know about the refund in PayPal, because I have never filed any dispute there, because I do not feel the need to do that. But I heard that PayPal processes the refund fast, while in AlertPay, I received the refunds within 2 months.

Well 2 months is a pretty long time. In paypal it gives both the traders a few days time and anyone does not respond the case is won by the other side.
03-05-09, 20:24
wanted123

microsoft i have reported a transcation as i was scammed by 16 $ and provided the proof and i was having as long problem and it didnt respond me and i think alertpay is the easiest processor for scammer as scammer can easily do a charge back
04-05-09, 04:25
hyxfei

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Originally Posted by wanted123

microsoft i have reported a transcation as i was scammed by 16 $ and provided the proof and i was having as long problem and it didnt respond me and i think alertpay is the easiest processor for scammer as scammer can easily do a charge back

well. so have you received your chargeback money already?
paypal also have the same charge back feature so some scammer use this feature to scam others also. it's really that alertpay should be more carful when dealing with those chargeback.
04-05-09, 12:25
wonderful1

Now chinese members can verify paypal account by local ATM cards, so can i verify my AP account by this way now? if not, hope it can add it soon.
04-05-09, 13:09
wanted123

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Originally Posted by hyxfei

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Originally Posted by wanted123

microsoft i have reported a transcation as i was scammed by 16 $ and provided the proof and i was having as long problem and it didnt respond me and i think alertpay is the easiest processor for scammer as scammer can easily do a charge back

well. so have you received your chargeback money already?
paypal also have the same charge back feature so some scammer use this feature to scam others also. it's really that alertpay should be more carful when dealing with those chargeback.

i am not doing a chare back my money was scammed by some one who i met in EMF so i xchnaged siunce he has good itrader and he has scammed me i have reported the problem to alertpay if they reply me in 5-6 days then i will have hope if not no hope
04-05-09, 13:23
kiatsiang

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Originally Posted by wanted123

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Originally Posted by hyxfei

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Originally Posted by wanted123

microsoft i have reported a transcation as i was scammed by 16 $ and provided the proof and i was having as long problem and it didnt respond me and i think alertpay is the easiest processor for scammer as scammer can easily do a charge back

well. so have you received your chargeback money already?
paypal also have the same charge back feature so some scammer use this feature to scam others also. it's really that alertpay should be more carful when dealing with those chargeback.

i am not doing a chare back my money was scammed by some one who i met in EMF so i xchnaged siunce he has good itrader and he has scammed me i have reported the problem to alertpay if they reply me in 5-6 days then i will have hope if not no hope

Many cheaters make use of these charge back policy to cheat members money especially in money exchange services among members. It is really risky to exchange money with those people that you don't know, better exchange with famous members here.
06-05-09, 10:25
wanted123

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Originally Posted by kiatsiang

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Originally Posted by wanted123

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Originally Posted by hyxfei

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Originally Posted by wanted123

microsoft i have reported a transcation as i was scammed by 16 $ and provided the proof and i was having as long problem and it didnt respond me and i think alertpay is the easiest processor for scammer as scammer can easily do a charge back

well. so have you received your chargeback money already?
paypal also have the same charge back feature so some scammer use this feature to scam others also. it's really that alertpay should be more carful when dealing with those chargeback.

i am not doing a chare back my money was scammed by some one who i met in EMF so i xchnaged siunce he has good itrader and he has scammed me i have reported the problem to alertpay if they reply me in 5-6 days then i will have hope if not no hope

Many cheaters make use of these charge back policy to cheat members money especially in money exchange services among members. It is really risky to exchange money with those people that you don't know, better exchange with famous members here.

yes that true and i have asked chanrge back money from those who scammed me and they said e to wait 5 business days if they didnt send me the money back alertpoay will be helping me in receiving the funds.but i am noit sure whether alertpay will be helping me to get my 16 ap back
25-05-09, 10:48
hyxfei

so. the estimated time has gone now and have you received your money back already? please share with us here.
25-05-09, 11:42
kiatsiang

Well, i also curious to know whether the chargeback policy is can be used for the exchange services or not, it is already long gone, I am also waiting for wanted123 to clarify whether he is able to get back money from AP or not.
25-05-09, 15:04
hyxfei

i guess he have received the money already so he have not update this thread again. if he yet to receive then he may keep on updating and seek for some useful suggestion to solve this problem.
27-05-09, 08:34
kiatsiang

I see wanted123 has not been online on this forum for quite some times, we couldn't confirmed how the case status without him. Anyway, i have different thinking, since so many scam case online, AP may not settle each one on time, so i guess he still did not receives any feed back from AP.
27-05-09, 16:43
hyxfei

yes. that's possible also and i ever heard alertpay need one month's time to check the chargeback and i think after one month's long time all the scammer money have been withdrawn or transferred to other account already.
27-05-09, 17:29
kiatsiang

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Originally Posted by hyxfei

yes. that's possible also and i ever heard alertpay need one month's time to check the chargeback and i think after one month's long time all the scammer money have been withdrawn or transferred to other account already.

In this case, then even with the availability of charge back policy, it is still no use to us becuase they taking too long to check the abuse case, where scammer already transfer or withdraw out the money already.
27-05-09, 20:31
wanted123

if it is transferred to different account there is a chance in in geting money back id not the alertpay team will disclose all the account with that sam ip and ban it so he cant use it any more thats what they told me
27-05-09, 23:45
hyxfei

well. that's not our own experience and only heard it from others. maybe alertpay have advanced their efficent and can block that claimed ID asap now already. :)
28-05-09, 06:04
wanted123

it can benefit many other users who gonna get scammed by him but for us there is no benefit in locking the account atleast ap could have tried to return our money so it could benefit everyone
28-05-09, 07:09
kiatsiang

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Originally Posted by wanted123

it can benefit many other users who gonna get scammed by him but for us there is no benefit in locking the account atleast ap could have tried to return our money so it could benefit everyone

So, till now did you get back your money which being scammed after you make dispute to AP? What is the email reply from AP and how long they react to your case?
28-05-09, 08:13
wanted123

they replied to wait around 6 business day sitbeen a month i dont know when they will return but if they could return soon it would be good and i wanted to try asking the question again to their support so tht i can confirm when i will get my money
28-05-09, 08:15
wonderful1

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Originally Posted by wanted123

it can benefit many other users who gonna get scammed by him but for us there is no benefit in locking the account atleast ap could have tried to return our money so it could benefit everyone

Hope all of you can get money back. I didn't know that AP has such function like PP. we should be more careful to exchange money with others in the future.
28-05-09, 10:20
wanted123

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Originally Posted by wonderful1

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Originally Posted by wanted123

it can benefit many other users who gonna get scammed by him but for us there is no benefit in locking the account atleast ap could have tried to return our money so it could benefit everyone

Hope all of you can get money back. I didn't know that AP has such function like PP. we should be more careful to exchange money with others in the future.

they both have same function but paypal function is better than ap has paypal will look into the case fast but ap takes like 4-6 months so it woudnt benefit the user much
28-05-09, 11:58
hyxfei

yes. i also think Alertpay really take a long time to do this. but paypal will take action asap if we submitted such support ticket to protect our money.

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